Civil Procedure I
Week of 10-27-08
27 October
- Meet and confer meeting. We did it.
- Comical disagreements about what got resolved: this is why
you send a confirming letter.
- Rule 26(c): motion to protect. This is the opposite of a
motion to compel. It blocks discovery into something.
When would you use this? First, if you just want to
make it clear that you don't intend to turn over something.
More importantly, though, if you need to prevent the
other side from getting some information you really
don't think they should have (i.e., via subpoena)
- Jason Knutson was the defense attorney in the deposition
demo.
- Basics in strategy. The three main goals: gather information,
pin down testimony, obtain trial testimony.
- In a sense, we want to limit what the witness can testify to.
- Depositions can be used to get the testimony of people who
won't be at the trial.
- Open-ended question: Who, what, when, where, why, which,
how, describe, explain. Every open-ended question can
be asked by beginning with one of those nine words: if
that's the first word in your question, you know you
are asking an open-ended question. These are designed
to get information (as opposed to leading or suggestive
questions).
- Seal-off question: Want to be sure we've gotten everything.
Did anything else happen? Are there any other incidents?
Have you told me everything about that incident? You
ask a few times, until the person says no. At that point
you have sealed off the topic.
- T-Funnels: Begin with broad questions, then drill down.
Get the lay of the land. When has x happened? When else?
When else? Don't assume that a narrow answer is complete.
Then seal off: are there any other times? Then, from
the list of things that was elicited, repeat the process
for individual elements.
- Don't ask "do you remember?" because that gives the witness
an out.
- How do you really seal off? There's a presumptive limit
of 10 depositions and 7 hrs/deposition. We want
to exhaust the witness's knowledge/recollection.
Then, if witnesses change their story or add to their
testimony, they will pay a credibility price.
- You can do a little bit of cross examination in deposition.
It started already, in fact. We ask "admit that ___."
Cross-examiners get into trouble when they try to get
a witness to accept an argumentative version of the case.
To control this, break questions down into smaller and
smaller units, in order to make them bite-size and
reasonable: take the evaluative elements out of the
questions.
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29 October
- Objections:
- Vague
- Privilege/Work-product (iron clad)
- Compound
- Speculative
- Relevance
- Not Qualified
- Privacy (may not work)
- Deposition may be the most important of the discovery tools;
previously we've only been dealing with opposing lawyers.
Suddenly, though, we get to interact with witnesses.
- Read the entire handout from Schwartz on the paper.
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- Bennett: a 7th circuit case decided before Twombly.
As long as you say anything that puts the defendant on
notice, that's enough. Discussing this one is optional;
Tamayo is not: most authoritative decision interpreting
the Twombly standard.
- We can now have 2,550 words! Don't need introduction and QP/BA.
They maybe fulfil the same function.
- Write spoilers, not teasers.
- Always did one level below the generic. "Our cause of action
won't be dismissed because we do state a claim." That
is generic-- that rule applies to every case. How does
it work in our case?
- In the 12(b)(6) motion, facts come from the complaint. In
the summary judgment motion, they come from the motion.
- JMOL = Judgment as a Matter Of Law
- No JMOL for D != JMOL for P. And vice-versa. That means there
are facts in controversy, or the facts don't fall into
a settled area of law.
- Senior partner meetings. 15-30 sec introductory statement.
1.5-2 min summary of argument. Then discussion.
- Script some stuff with big fonts. Leave space between things.
- Go in with the expectation that you'll be talking for 10
minutes.
- Think: what are the most important points from the memo that
we want the senior partner to understand? Make those
come first.
- Don't forget to read both the memo, the complaint, and the
defendants' brief before the conference. Go ahead and
supplement rule numbers with a prompting (i.e., 12(b)(6),
which says the complaint doesn't state a claim upon which
relief can be granted).
- Make eye contact. Re-read the rubric.
- Back to memos. Done.
- Briefs: persuasion. That's what is coming next.
- Logic and facts well presented are persuasive; honesty and
precision are key. The court doesn't want to be yelled
at, and this won't convince anyone.
- Policy doesn't come up a great deal at trial, but it comes
up a lot at the supreme court level. Briefs may be
a matter of public record.
- Judges have the uh-oh list of lawyers: laughed at when they
win, and subject to extra scrutiny, because of their
reputation for troublesome briefs.